Empowered Ease

Liberation Through Embodied Awareness with Molly Rose

Jenn Ohlinger Season 1 Episode 14

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What if the key to personal transformation isn't about fixing what's broken, but rather becoming curious about patterns that once protected you? Somatic coach Molly Rose joins us to explore how our bodies hold wisdom far beyond cognitive intelligence.

Drawing from her decade of experience in nonprofit management and humanitarian work, Molly reveals how organizations like Clowns Without Borders and Burning Man Project showed her the profound impact of human connection in crisis. Whether performing in refugee camps or organizing community-driven service projects, she witnessed how simple moments of wonder and laughter create resilience against overwhelming circumstances.

Molly defines liberation as "freedom from the pairs"—moving beyond binary thinking that forces us to categorize everything as good/bad or right/wrong. This approach allows us to navigate life's complexities with greater ease and authenticity. Through somatic coaching, she helps clients become aware of their conditioned "shapes" or habitual responses, creating space for new choices instead of automatic reactions.

This conversation resonates particularly for high-functioning individuals who appear successful externally but feel disconnected from enjoying their achievements, or those serving as pillars of strength while carrying the cost somewhere in their lives. Molly shares practical tools like "orienting" to regulate your nervous system during stress, and explains how six months of somatic practice can create rippling transformation.

The most powerful insight? All our strategies for moving through the world developed for good reasons—to protect our safety, belonging, and dignity. When we honor rather than reject these aspects of ourselves, change happens naturally. Connect with Molly at withmollyrose.com to explore how somatic coaching might support your journey toward greater alignment and authenticity.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to Empowered Ease. I'm Jen Olinger, delighted to bring you another episode dedicated to showcasing inspiring women who are making a difference. Today I'm thrilled to introduce my guest, molly Rose. Molly is a dynamic leader and coach with over a decade of experience in promoting creative and meaningful social impact. Her expertise lies in fostering resilience through relationship and leadership development. So Molly has worked with a vast array of individuals, teams, resource partners and community groups, helping them craft thoughtful, inclusive strategies that foster transformational change. Whether through individual coaching, group facilitation or innovative strategy design, she has successfully guided hundreds of community impact leaders to create meaningful leadership and program designs, both in the nonprofit world and in her service as a development coach.

Speaker 1:

Central to Molly's approach is the liberation from limiting and oppressive narratives. With a robust background in somatics, experience, design, social impact and creative facilitation, she empowers others to explore their inner wisdom, resilience and aliveness in all service of personal and communal transformation. So Molly excels in supporting those committed to their own liberation and deconstructing internalized oppressive narratives. She partners with individuals from privileged identities to explore somatic awareness related to crucial social issues like class and race, striving to build an embodied anti-racist culture that brings cultural values to the forefront. Her impressive work and collaborations include leading organizations such as Burning man Project, clowns Without Borders, unhcr, reuters, unhcr, tedx, bushwick and many more. She's grounded in learning lineage that incorporates the teachings of the Strazi Institute for Somatics and I apologize for this pronunciation RESMA, menachem, somatic Abolitionismism and many other influential, influential programs. So, without further ado, let's welcome molly rose to empowered ease. Well, welcome to empowered ease, molly. How are you?

Speaker 2:

thank you so much, jen. I'm doing really well today and I'm so excited to have come to the moment of meeting you and connecting for the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Me too. Me too, I kind of checked out your website a little bit and I don't know if you guys haven't been on. She has a beautiful website. I love it. I'm in the process of kind of talking about having someone like redo and I forget what they call it, kind of like make everything rebranded, like brand everything kind of cohesively, and so she's like pick out websites you love and yours. So I'm like, oh, I love her website, good website.

Speaker 2:

Literally so affirming. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no problem, no problem. So tell me a little bit my listeners a little bit about what you do. Yeah, thanks for that question. So tell me a little bit, tell my listeners a little bit about what you do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thanks for that question.

Speaker 2:

So I'm a somatic coach and I actually got to somatic coaching pretty recently out of a career pivot from 10 years in nonprofit management and really it seems different, you know, like doing the whole nonprofit world and working with clients in a one-on-one sort of support capacity.

Speaker 2:

But when I think about how I ended up here, it kind of always circles back to something that's been threading the needle for me since I started having a career, which is it sounds really cheesy, but it's like a deep yearning to participate in our shared liberation.

Speaker 2:

And I think one thing that I learned so much over the 10 years kind of working at social impact and arts and culture was was that we can have a really liberated perspective and that we can create relationships that are really generative and community driven in pretty much any environment. And so in my path through that, I've landed at just recognizing that in order to do what kind of the world is asking us to do, kind of a cultural transformation turning towards a way for us to continue to be in a relationship with this planet, that organizations are made up of people and that I really love and feel so satisfied working with people who have a big drive to have an impact on the world and on their community and like helping them on an individual level to build more ground and like have more space is something that just really satisfies me. So no, I'm a somatic coach.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So you're working with like high achieving people with big dreams, trying to make big transformation. Is that my hearing that correctly? You?

Speaker 2:

know the word big is there there, but I think the word that's more true even for me is like deep um people. It doesn't always look big like the kind of work that my client. Can you repeat that I?

Speaker 1:

think it like cut out a little bit.

Speaker 2:

When you said the words, say the word again oh, yeah, the word that I think might be even more true is deep or like. Deep, I love that, okay, yes, that's the kind of work that, um, people are up to powerful. Yeah, the deep I love that. Okay, yes, that's the kind of work that people are up to Powerful. Yeah, the people that I've that I've started supporting, that I'm up to. It runs the gamut from folks that have kind of a really active leadership goal or, sorry, role in the sustainability world or like in climate, but for me it's just as meaningful. You know, I also have clients that work in education, that are accountants, that work in just kind of the jobs that need to get done, but they have this drive, this yearning, this, whether they're an artist or a healer or an activist, like they have a sense that what they're doing and how they are being in relationship in the world is something that can kind of make a difference. I'm doing air quotes right now for the podcast people.

Speaker 1:

So people committed to living deeper, people committed to what, no matter what they're doing, doing it with a deeper conviction or like connecting with that, like deeper part of themselves, is what I'm hearing. Is that accurate? That's?

Speaker 2:

exactly right and a phrase that I like to use and that you'll see if, if anybody visits my website, is like values, aligned behavior, oh, I love that interested in cultivating a body and a capacity to be in choice and really make choices and have behaviors that are in alignment with their values.

Speaker 1:

I like, I love that. So when you say shared liberation, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 2:

Yes, so there are so many ways that people define liberation, and one of my teachers offered me a definition that I love. That is the one that I use now, and it's kind of a Buddhist definition of liberation, which means freedom from the pairs. So it's like we can feel like we're in a big binary, like everything is either black or white, or good or bad, or right or wrong, and it can create a lot of, it can bring up a lot of stuff, and so when I say liberation, meaning freedom from the pairs, meaning like freedom from the binary and more tolerance for the sort of complicated, nuanced gray area which is where we're spending most of our life and where most of the most important decisions are being made.

Speaker 1:

I love that there was. It hasn't come up for me so much recently, but I feel like last year the concept of duality came up for me so much how so many things are so many things at the same time. They're the good, the bad, they're the black and the white at the same time, and that was a theme that came up for me a lot last year that I like to revisit. So I like that you said that, because that's kind of what I'm thinking of, this like it's never either, or it's always all like so much, Okay. Well, I love that. So when clients come to you, what kind of what can they expect to gain from coaching with you?

Speaker 2:

Well, do you think I feel like a lot of people also kind of have heard of somatics but don't actually like there are again so many definitions for, yeah, let's explain your definition.

Speaker 1:

I just had like a somatic coach on a few weeks ago, so I'm like just jumping ahead though. So yeah, explain to us about somatics first.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Molly, yeah, of course, like again this, this answer would be different, you know, depending on who you ask, but as I, as I, work with somatics, soma is the word that it is the Greek root, meaning like the alive organism in its holistic self, something like that. And so the somoma is really the domain of like our thoughts, our feelings, behaviors, our urges, the beliefs that we carry about, how we are and how the world works, and also the energetic dynamic that we bring to relationships. So when I'm working with folks, often the things that they're seeking to transform in their life are around those topics. Okay, so what was the question? Again?

Speaker 1:

We were just talking about what your, your definition of somatics is to start with. So that's the definition of somatics. Okay, I love that. Okay. And then I was asking you what kind of transformation or changes that people work on or get from your coaching.

Speaker 2:

Great. A lot of the types of transformations and I'm just kind of letting the question land because there's a few ways I could answer it, but things that I see.

Speaker 1:

I love your intentionality with your words. By the way, I like from the get go, like I, I started doing this new introduction for the show, which anyone who listens to it knows. There's a new introduction for the last two. So I sent Molly the thing of it and she said you're like the first person to like revise it and send it back, which I loved because it was the words. The words you used were very intentional. And then I noticed, speaking to you, you're very intentional about your words. So, thank you, and yeah, you want to tell us something. Anything about that would explain that a little bit.

Speaker 2:

I'm smiling because that's not the first time that I've gotten that feedback. And it's true, I am really intentional with language and, honestly, in my own path, you know, figuring out how I want to be and who I am in relationships with other people. I laugh because I think about, like ex-partners when I was first really landing, how important language was to me and how much it mattered to me to really say exactly what I was trying to say. You know, for two, three, five, six minutes, while I'm sort of gathering the courage and the clarity to spit it out. You know, whatever it is that I'm trying to say to them and, honestly, that's a good example of some of the kinds of stuff that I work with with my clients.

Speaker 2:

I think people in a broad sense are seeking transformation around the dynamic that they bring to relationships, whether that's in their families or with their spouses or in their organizations, and also there's kind of this nebulous thing of like um on the way to leadership development. Often there's a step that I've had within myself and that I've seen in other people of having to reconnect with your authentic information and having to build more trust in yourself and your sort of somatic intelligence. One of my teachers. Res Momenicum talks about the seven bodily intelligences, and cognitive intelligence is only one of them and it's like overblown.

Speaker 2:

I'll go ahead and say it's overblown, it's overused, at least in the United States, in our society and the other intelligences in our bodies are so diminished, and so I'm often working with folks just to reconnect with the intelligence that's already there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so to get more attached, more aligned, more intentional with the way they present themselves and interact in the world.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and, like you know, something that might be familiar, that I'll just say in case it resonates with anybody is, like you know, often we have an image of ourselves, of how tolerant or how patient or how strategic and thoughtful we might be, and then we have these moments where the pressure really comes in and we just make a move without even thinking about it and it's not the one that we wanted to make.

Speaker 2:

Maybe we like lash out or we disengage or put up a wall, and then afterwards we're thinking about it and we're like, dang, I wish I just had that moment, like I wish I had been able to just take a minute, take a pause, like take a breath, think about what I actually want to do instead of just doing that reaction. And that pause moment is really a lot of what sometimes we get up to in somatic coaching, because we're basically in a sandbox where we try on and explore a lot of different um I'm using air quotes again moves, and we really do it for the sake of slowing everything down and being in an environment that is, um, for the sake of exploring and bringing an actual curiosity to the self yeah, I love, I feel like a lot of coaching is helping people to develop that relationship with themselves in an intentional way, and I love that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, well, I, you have like some really fun things on your resume that I want to ask you about, even though I know you're not here, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2:

I love everything I've ever done, so fun.

Speaker 1:

So the first one I wanted to ask you about was clowns without borders. So are you, do you? I don't know how to say it because I know there's a way to say it, but are you a clown? Am I a professional? Are you? Yeah? Well, do you like?

Speaker 2:

so I had a roommate who would go to South America and I don't know if it's the same organization.

Speaker 1:

It was with the. What does the one patch out of this is involved in? Is that the same one? It's not, but I did work for patch Adams, so my one of my old roommates did too, and it's like I didn't realize this at the time and now I do. But, like it being a clown is its own, a huge community, like, like, and it does really positive, amazing things and I had no idea and she kind of like introduced me a little bit to that world so it was so cool to see that on there, like brought me back to her and she's an amazing person. So, yeah, tell me about this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I really, I really love clowns and you're right, like there is a huge community of humanitarian clowns, people that do clowning in this environment. And, yeah, my first real, my first real job was for about five and a half years. I was the director and various roles for this very small organization called Clowns Without Borders USA. There's 22 different chapters of Clowns Without Borders USA. There's 22 different chapters of Clowns Without Borders around the world and basically it's all just working in partnership only going where they are invited with either an individual or an organization that's local and living in the area where they're going to be touring, and then organizing free performance and workshop circus tours in refugee camps, conflict zones, natural disaster sites and with communities, especially families, but all people experiencing conflict around the world. And that is an amazing organization, y'all. I do recommend looking them up, throwing them a few bucks. They're a volunteer driven organization.

Speaker 2:

Um, and really I learned about somatics through those clown tours in a way that at the time I didn't have language for. But the thing that's so amazing about clowning in refugee camps and with communities on the run from war or communities that are, you know, strategically under-resourced and undervalued, is that basically the clowning does. I'll just say two things. One is it creates a wonderful opportunity to invert a power dynamic. That's very unusual when people are receiving services and sort of in survival mode, because the clowns are often the first kind of foreigners that are coming into communities not trying to teach anything, not trying to give anything or show anything, like the clown is really the bottom of the totem pole, and so it creates this opportunity for real human contact, um for like real connection and relationship.

Speaker 2:

For the second thing, which is like resilience through laughter and um, just and connection yeah, if there's one thing that clowns without borders has taught me, it's that um, like a, a. It's that like the difference between experiencing a crisis and potentially you know developing PTSD, and like carrying that with you for a long time and having the support to move through an experience in the moment and ask for and receive some things that you might need. Like it's a, it's a razor's edge. It doesn't take much to create the circumstances for a moment of wonder, a moment of awe, a moment of relaxation or levity, which is critical for our wellbeing as individuals and communities. By the way, like it's in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it's critical that we have those moments and they're so much more accessible than they are like at all times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, even in the worst of times, right. That's kind of the message. I love that. That's so cool that you were with that organization. I love just being able to talk about that organization on this podcast, cause I don't know if I would have remembered it Like that's so cool. Okay so other sorry did I interrupt you.

Speaker 2:

No, I just said yay, I'm glad you brought it up.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Another interesting thing I saw on your podcast was you were on the board for Burning man or something related with Burning man.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I was not. I was never on the board for Burning man project. I was an employee at Burning man.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I worked full time for Burning man for also about five and a half years for Burners Without Borders, which is also a great program. So I was basically a community organizer for the wing of the Burning man community that's passionate about civic action in their hometowns. So it was really like a. It was the kind of the next natural thing, cause I'm not a clown, I'm not a professional clown, I'm very clown affiliated.

Speaker 1:

Are you a burner?

Speaker 2:

I'm a burner.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you are Okay, I'm not, but I had a roommate that was and it is another thing different roommate, surprisingly, but it is again one of those things that that, like it, has its own community, that comes with it and people keep in touch, like for years, so it's so cool yeah, yeah, my Burning man community are super close friends of mine.

Speaker 2:

but it was a natural progression from Clowns Without Borders because I was so clear about the impact of kind of relational community building, community driven service projects and I kind of relational community building, community driven service projects and I kind of like was itching to support that in more than just with clowning and performance, even though that is an amazing avenue for it.

Speaker 1:

How cool. I love that there was one acronym on there I did not recognize I was going to ask you about, because I said it but I didn't know what it meant. So the UNHCR. What does that stand for? Oh, united.

Speaker 2:

Nation for Humanitarian Resources or something Yikes. Let's just double check that, because people in the humanitarian world will be like who is?

Speaker 1:

she. I think you are in the humanitarian world and have earned that spot. So your resume says you've done some considerable work. Okay, so it's.

Speaker 2:

United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. So basically, like the context of UNHCR on my resume is that they were a collaborator with us for some of our Clowns Without Borders tours in Kenya in the Kakuma refugee camp, which is like one of the largest refugee camps in the world and most refugee camps are run by these international organizations that have you know their mission of providing transitional housing for people on the run from war and UNHCR is like a really big guy in that area.

Speaker 1:

Oh cool. Is it involved in, like the sanctuary cities? I have no idea, no worries. Well, I'll look at it later. Okay, so then I saw TEDx Bushwick, which I love TED, ted and TEDx. So tell me a little bit about that which I love Ted, ted and TEDx.

Speaker 2:

So tell me a little bit about that. I love this. This is fun for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, tedx was so fun and that was actually one of the first things I did when I became the administrative director for Clowns Without Borders, because I was coming in with this feeling of people need to know about this.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know about it until I found out about it and then I was just really driven to. I mean, when I joined that organization, they were entirely volunteer run and I was like, listen, I'm willing to work for free for like a couple of years if we are planning on becoming a paid staff of some kind of sustainable office, because this is a dream job for me. And so the director at the time, tim Cunningham, and the board they were great, they were super on board. I was like green enough to that they could afford me and really, really energetic, yeah. And so, yeah, one of the first things that I did was was pitch that TEDx talk that I called resilience through laughter, and it really was all about just how real it is that through simple human contact with very little infrastructure, you can really create transformation in people's experience and in the energy of a place, and that also took me on a path to creative placemaking took me on a path to creative placemaking that is cool.

Speaker 1:

So tell me a little bit more about your background in this creative placemaking, because I saw that mentioned a lot on your website. So tell me a little bit more about what that is.

Speaker 2:

Oh, maybe I don't think it's on my website, but it's probably on my LinkedIn and yeah, basically, creative placemaking is another sort of niche world that I found a couple of years ago that, similarly to semantics, felt like it was giving language to something that I had been playing around in, which is, you know, placemaking the act of making a place, and that it's like something that real estate people do of making a place, and that it's like something that real estate people do, or that you'll often talk about it in the context of urban planning, and creative placemaking is also sitting within that context of urban planning, of development, but it has a really radical origin and it really is about how do we placemake in a way that honors the past, that honors what is already here and that honors the vision for the future of the community that's already in this place.

Speaker 2:

Not everybody's going to define it that way, but that's something that has felt really true to me and so, weaving it all together, I did this certification in placement, in creative placemaking, exploring just kind of like what we as a society know about leisure and recreation. Really, it's a lot of the stuff that I was just mentioning about how, like leisure and recreation. We know this is important. Connection to self spirituality, like being fulfilled on a higher level. We know this is important and for community is important to all that.

Speaker 2:

And it's designed in to you know to towns like we have playgrounds, we have recreational areas, and so I wrote my thesis for that certification about creative placemaking and its applications for refugee camps, and this is a total. This is like a soapbox. I could get on for a while, so I'll just say a couple of sentences. But the reason that it felt so interesting and maybe I will publish that sometime I never really I got it about 80% to feeling good about publishing it. But what I to feeling good about publishing it, but what I learned and what it landed for me was just like we have people right now I didn't know we were going to talk about this, so I don't have the current numbers.

Speaker 2:

So I'd suggest that folks look up the number of people that are currently displaced, both displaced internally in their own countries and living in refugee camps in the world. It's an enormous number that continues to grow very quickly. But when we talk about that, we're talking about transient location, temporary housing, but this is something that people are spending decades, generations of their families, of their lives living in. People are being born in transient locations, they're growing up, they're getting married, they're having children, they're becoming grandchildren, and so the question that I was really driven by was like how long do people live in temporary situations before we decide that they, too, really deserve to have this infrastructure for quality of life that we recognize is critical for people to become the fullest expression of themselves? So I'll stop there. But yeah, that's kind of I love that. I love that.

Speaker 1:

And I think it speaks a lot to the coaching you're doing and the kind of clients you're looking for too, when you talk about those kind of interests that you have, because I think it's people that are passionate on that level. They're going to connect with your coaching and want to talk to you about, like ways to feel connected to their work or their community in that way, because you can feel your passion when you talk about all these projects, and I can feel your passion for community and, you know, for giving back, and so I love that you're sharing all of this. Thank you for giving back, and so I love that you're sharing all this. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Okay, so really, really fun stuff we're learning here. So I know that you have some spots open for one-on-one clients coming up, so tell us a little bit about that, what they would expect from that year one-on-one coaching and then kind of like the kind of person maybe that this might speak to thank you so much for that question, jen.

Speaker 2:

that's sweet to ask. Yeah, I'm so excited to have some spaces open in my one-on-one coaching and I guess the first thing that I can say, which is also just kind of true across the board, about somatic practice, is that it's a medium-term commitment. Somatics loves repetition and so it's important when we're taking a somatic approach to transformation to really give yourself time to kind of unravel and unwind and start getting into the practices. So the arc of coaching is six months.

Speaker 2:

I work with my clients, I meet them twice or three times a month and during our sessions it can look like a lot of things, but often we'll be doing a combination of different somatic visualization and conversation. It can look and feel a lot like inquiry, coaching or therapy. But then we have these physical practices and we have these kind of embodiment practices that are, like I said, for the sake of building that somatic awareness of what is happening and priming yourself to have openings, and openings are opportunities. Once you've kind of dysregulated your conditioned shapes, the moves that are really familiar, then sometimes you'll notice like space to make a different choice. So we're really getting our reps in if you think of it like a gym. When we're in session together, we're getting our reps in of somatic practice and then in between, my clients are doing their own practices on their own, working with fundamental practices. That it really depends on the person and it depends on what, what they're trying to get up to, what those will be. So, yeah, that's like one way to come into answering that question.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I love that, I love the timeframe. Can you tell us kind of like maybe for some like coaching previous coaching clients, like after coaching with you, like what are some of the emphases that they've said about your coaching or, like you know, some of the change that they've experienced?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thanks for that. You know, I'll just share the two things that just popped to mind. One of my clients that I worked with really came in working on conflict and actually we're still working together. We've entered into another arc together, but at the end of our first arc of working together, one of the things that they said to me was you know, it's interesting, since we really got into the work, I feel like I've started to notice conflict coming up in my life a lot more. But what I'm actually what's coming to me is that maybe it was always there and that I was in a shape where I just wasn't even able to take it in or see it or react to it. And the thing that's really exciting for me about this report out that they then said was like and it's interesting because even though now I'm seeing so much more, I'm not as afraid and there's a part of me that's actually like kind of curious and like excited about, like maybe I can do this. So that's a really subtle one.

Speaker 2:

Another one that's really subtle, but was the first thing that came to mind with another client. You know, we were exploring an aspect of their, of their condition tendency, of the shape that they have learned in their life, and at the end this was actually just a free session, a gift session that I offered, and at the end they said something that really touched me, which was, which was I think I actually understand what self-compassion is, and I think that I just felt actual compassion for this aspect of myself for the first time in my life, and so those are kind of small, but you can imagine like the ripple of something like that I was going to say.

Speaker 1:

it sounds like a block or a barrier that they're able to finally, like, crumble or move.

Speaker 2:

The work is subtle and it's one of those things where, kind of at the beginning, you you kind of you know have a vision of what change could look like and you feel like, how could I possibly get there? And it's really only in retrospect that you turn around and you're like, oh, like I'm really different than I was at the beginning of committing to six months of somatic practice for myself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. Did you say ripple? Because that's what I kept thinking of. Like, yeah, I love that. Okay, love it, I love that. Um, I guess I want to people that are seeking right now who would be what. I guess I just want to like align you with the clients that might want your services right now for your next thing. So I'm thinking of, like what kind of people, what are, what kind of things are like clients that would benefit from your practices?

Speaker 2:

See, you think they're seeking right now right now, I think let's see like or how they're suffering, I guess or yeah, yeah, you know, I think that some of my clients are. Well, I guess I'll answer it in two ways. Um, there's one way on the nose that a lot of my clients externally like don't seem to be suffering Okay, they actually seem to be doing pretty well and they are like making, you know, moves in their lives. They're like making decisions that Seemingly high functioning Exactly Thanks, seemingly high functioning and also actively high functioning Exactly Thanks, seemingly high functioning and also actively high functioning.

Speaker 2:

But, um, and like, if this is you, then you just feel it. But they feel something. They feel like I'm doing everything right, but I'm first it's not hitting. Sometimes my clients are like, they're like everything is good, but for some reason I struggle to make contact with the enjoyment and the pleasure of this present moment of my life. Like I actually want to have more contact with what is good because there's so much good, but there's some reason that I'm not enjoying my life as much as I think I should be.

Speaker 2:

Um, some of the other clients that if this is, if you're hearing this and this is you clients, that if this is, if you're hearing this and this is you, then then somatic coaching might be a good fit is, like you know, you might have a lot of people that depend on you. Like perhaps you have a lot of teams that you support, or direct reports or different groups that you, or programs that you oversee, and you're known as, like this pillar of confidence, like a pillar of strength. People really lean on you, but the cost of that is going somewhere, and so, whether the cost of that is coming out with your family or coming out with your friendships, or if it's getting introjected and you're just swallowing it, there's a way that you feel like maybe not completely authentic, because you feel like what people are perceiving about you that you're not fully aligning to that. So that's another thing that is true for a lot of my clients.

Speaker 1:

That's why I'm like hearing this, like this, this misalignment, and I love that. Okay, so, okay, those are great, great explanations. Okay. So I ask everybody this who comes on, but what do you? What's your go-to self-care when things get hard? That kind of helps you reset and get you back to feeling like yourself.

Speaker 2:

All right, the first one is crying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, it's the way our bodies help regulate ourselves. So crying, I cry. I never cried when I was younger, like my 20s, never cried and now I cry like I can't even tell you how many times a day I'm like that was a beautiful song, that was a beautiful post, like silly, silly things. I cried, anything that's so relatable.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, people are relatable. Yeah, people are like well, you seem so grounded and I'm like I just want you to know that I literally cry, like every day. So that. And also spontaneous movement, you know, just throwing on a song and as much as I can like letting myself be moved and try, you know, not overthinking the dance too much. Yeah, letting your body take it over, yeah, and spontaneous movement, as far as I'm concerned, can be dancing, standing stillness, singing right, like any of it as long as it's what's the urges.

Speaker 1:

Expressive yeah, I love that. I love that. Those are great. I don't do that as much as I should, but when I do do it I can, I like, feel the release. I love that one.

Speaker 2:

Now that I work so much like, now that I have my business doing somatic coaching, I do it so much more because I I find it so important, right for me to continue to do my practices, so just totally relatable. There's a time when I never did anything like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and you know, different things fit for different times too, you know, depending on what you're going through, I feel like mine's always changing what's feeling good at the time. So if someone is listening to this and like, yes, sign me up, where can they find you?

Speaker 2:

They can send me a message on the contact me on my website with mollyrosecom that's the same as my Instagram with Molly Rose but, yeah, the easiest way that'll always be there is just going and shooting me a message and if you're interested in in coaching, then we'll go ahead and schedule a free one hour consultation, just a chance to get to know each other, to learn about the transformation that you're longing for and whether a somatic approach is really the best fit for you.

Speaker 1:

I love that Beautiful. Okay, is there anything else you wanted to add that maybe I'm missing here? I'm trying to look over my notes I made before you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just as I'm like thinking about who might be listening to this in the future we don't get to know when I'm just thinking about um, you know, people are really up right now. There's a lot to be stressed about um globally and I feel like a lot of the time when I'm talking to folks, they're just like really going through it. People are really really going through it right now.

Speaker 2:

And so one other really simple kind of self-care move that I'll just put out there is orienting.

Speaker 2:

Orienting is something that takes no materials and you can do it anywhere, but it's when you find yourself getting spun up and like very freaked out, looking around, taking a moment, looking around the room that you're in and looking above, to the sides and behind you, turning from the waist, looking under any desks or door or tables or surfaces in the room and getting your eyes on all of the exits and windows in the room. And this is a tool that basically reminds our body that in this present moment we are actually in a safe environment, even when we're getting a lot of information that's causing anxiety and worry about what's going to happen in the future, what just happened in the past, what's happening around us. Orienting is a tool that I use all the time, that I use with my clients all the time to just come back into the room and be like all right, there's a lot happening right now, but actually this physical body in this room in this present moment is safe. So just want to give that to whoever might need that right now.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's like a great way to I love seeing these little tricks on how to like get out of fight or flight mode. You know what I mean, cause they're like from someone who, like didn't know how to for a long time, even recognize that emotions had physical sensations, to like realizing like oh my gosh, that's like all of a lot of things that to knowing there's so many little tricks like that that once you can gain like no, you're in it you can use these things. As soon as you gain the awareness of like I'm in one of those states, once you work yourself, there's all these little tricks and things you can do. Once you find that work for you, and I love that, cause that's a new one. I've never heard that one before. So thank you so much for sharing. Okay, so you mentioned your website, or sorry, you mentioned Insta and my website and your website. Anything else? You ways you any context you want to put out there before we?

Speaker 2:

go Just because people will be listening to it. You can always email me directly at mollyrosecoaching at gmailcom. That's where the contact form on the website goes, and I love to yap. I love connecting with folks, especially folks that are interested in what I'm interested in and you know, as I'm thinking about it, I'm like we're we're winding up.

Speaker 2:

Maybe there's one other thing, if you're down, that I would just say about a somatic approach in general for people that are curious, which is like the thing that I love. Just say about a somatic approach in general for people that are curious, which is like the thing that I love the most about a somatic approach is that it, like somatics, posits that it's like the book no bad parts, like there's no fixing and there's nothing wrong with you, even if the moves that you're making right now are not, um, are not having the impact that you're making right now, are not having the impact that you want them to be having. We know that all of the strategies for how we show up in the world are just that. They're strategies that have been developed, often when we're young, for very good reasons to protect our safety, our belonging and our dignity. And the more so like somatic says that the more that we can get curious, acknowledge, affirm and dignify the way that what we're up to makes sense for what we have taken in about how the world works makes sense for what we have taken in about how the world works, then transformation just happens.

Speaker 2:

It's like a gestalt perspective too, that like, when we really get clear and find a way to touch all parts of the cycle, that change can be effortless because it just happens. And so I feel called to say that, because I know, like and especially for women, like so many of us have, like these beliefs, that our emotional expression is too much, that like we want too much, that we're too sensitive, that like we should just get over things, or like that our very, or like that we should be more you know what's the word Like more out there, that we should lean in, like that all of the things that we're doing are like ways that we are bad or wrong or like imperfect, and it just it's not true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's like this whole. There's also like this, like hustle culture, where everyone's trying to be all things at one time and trying to do everything perfectly. And there is, like this quote that I don't even know where I heard it, but it was like you can have like everything you've ever wanted. Like that is very possible, but you will never have it at the same time. Like life doesn't work that way. Like you can't do, you can't, you can have it all, but you can't have it all at the same time. Like life doesn't work that way. Like you can't do, you can't. You can have it all, but you can't have it all at the same time. You know? So from there, it's like what do you want to focus on at a time? Like so I love that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, thank you so much. This was such a great conversation, molly. You are so fun to talk to and it's like so relaxed. You just put me in like a peaceful, peaceful state over here and you're also reminding me to be more intentional with my words, because that is something like I have ADHD, I have racing thoughts, I'm like the worst texter and I also like will just say stuff sometimes and I'm like you know what I mean, but being intentional is very powerful, and so I appreciate you for role modeling that. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank you, Jen. Yeah, I loved our conversation and I'm so grateful to have the opportunity to connect with you and also, yeah, your audience, whoever's listening.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, thank you, and we'll put all your links in the show notes and hopefully we'll have you back on the show again to see what you're up to later, thank you, thank you, that would be great.

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